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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 11:00 am 
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Quick battle reports for each battle this year thus far.

10/2/2007 - 4 rounds of 6 vs 6
The rounds were played by 8 different squads against each other. The objective was to hold the control point in the middle of the battlefield for as long as possible, score was counted in seconds. This was also to test out this new control-point scoring system for future games.

Armaments: Water balloons x 200 per team (400 per round)
Duration: 15 minutes per round
Kill system: 1H water bomb kill
Life system: Integrity/1 marshal
Battlefield: 2 toilets as bases/refill points and a hill in the centre, with the control point in the middle of the hill. Fighters would have to charge up the hill and hold the centre.

17/2/2007 - 25 vs 25
2 wings, Wing S and T played against each other. The objective was to hold the 3 control points in the middle of the battlefield for as long as possible, score was counted in seconds. Score was also given for hardworking balloon fillers. T Wing won, generally by holding the hill firmly and launching attacks from there.

Armaments: Water balloons x 500 per team (1000) + some water guns
Duration: 1 hour
Kill system: 1H water bomb kill
Life system: Integrity/lots of marshals
Battlefield: 2 toilets as bases/refill points and the same hill in the centre, with 1 control point on the hill, one at the amphitheatre (geographical battlefield centre) and 1 more behind the classroom block.

3/3/2007 - 73 vs 73
2 coalitions made of 3 wings each (Coalition GES vs Coalition PCT). The objective was to hold the 3 control points in the middle of the battlefield for as long as possible, score was counted in seconds. Score was also given for hardworking balloon fillers, as well as cool poses caught on camera by the marshals.
Each coalition had 1 General of the Armies, 1 Commander, 3 captains, and 12 sergeants. Coalition GES won.

Armaments: Water balloons x 3000 per team (6000) + some water guns
Duration: 1 hour 20 minutes
Kill system: 1H water bomb kill
Life system: Integrity/hordes of marshals
Battlefield: 2 toilets as bases/refill points and the same hill in the centre, with 1 control point on the hill, one at the amphitheatre (geographical battlefield centre) and 1 more behind the classroom block. Same as 17/2/2007 except with the addition of one more level and 2 additional bases.

10/3/2007 - 50 vs 23
The Warriors of Rohan vs the Uruk-hai! The objective of the men of Rohan was to defend Helm's Deep from the Uruk-hai. The Uruk-hai numbered less due to player quality. Helm's Deep consisted of the Deeping Wall, the Keep and the Fortress. The wall was a defensive perimeter, the keep was a roundabout and the fortress was a 2 level cabin. The defenders won in the end, with the Uruk-hai being only able to push through halfway down the wall to the keep.

Armaments: Water balloons x 500 per team (1000) + some water guns as usual, Uruk-hai got a lot of body armour and shields.
Duration: 1 hour
Kill system: 1H water bomb kill
Life system: Integrity/heroes (player mods)
Battlefield: Generally flat battlefield, with the wall being impenetrable physically nearer the keep and fortress, due to a canal. The battlefield was a rarely used road, with a roundabout and adjacent cabin. Refill points being 1 toilet per team and 1 hose for the defenders.

10/3/2007 - 22 vs 22
The Sentinel vs the Scourge. 3 level battlefield, with the objective being to get 2 out of 3 flags to the enemy monument (a World Tree or Frozen Throne), by bombing the other team into non-existance. Each team had 3 towers (stationary gun and bomb-armed armoured players), 1 per level. The game would end when one team destroys the other's monument. Players could find some upgrades which would benefit their team temporarily. Night battle. The battle was a draw.

Armaments: Water balloons x 500 per team (1000) + some water guns as usual, with towers getting guns, bombs and an APH
Duration: 1 hour
Kill system: 1H water bomb kill
Life system: Integrity (player mods)
Battlefield: 3 levels/lanes. Each level has some gaps to take cover, without having to be open to bombs by standing in the open. The flags would be pushed along these lanes until they reach either side.

24/3/2007 - 200 vs 200
Spartans vs Persians. The battlefield was an open field, with teams from each faction pushing their infantry to the other side to capture the enemy's flags. Infantry had to stay in a group while free-roaming cavalry helped manuever, though they could not capture flags. Infantry could carry tower shields and bunch up to push forward. The Spartans seemed to be winning at first, but the Persians starting winning at the end, so I think the Persians won...

Armaments: Zounds of water balloons, 200+ tower shields and the odd water gun
Duration: 4 hours, with breaks
Kill system: Soakertag, hit to the chest
Life system: Based on the markings on each's transparency.
Battlefield: An open field.


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Great reports! how I envy you and your opportunities to participate is larger-scale water wars!

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Wow, those battles sound amazing! The reports are consistent too. :)

Just wondering though, didn't the Uruk-hai vastly outnumber the defenders, even after Gandalf rallied reinforcements?



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They did, by about 10,000 to 1500. The only reason Rohan won was because they had Helm's Deep.



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Silence wrote:
Just wondering though, didn't the Uruk-hai vastly outnumber the defenders, even after Gandalf rallied reinforcements?

They did, but by varying amounts depending on whether you refer to the book or the film.

I did a paintball game based around an assault against a "fort" at the top of a small hill. The defenses were a considerable advantage, so the attackers could "respawn" by returning to the base of the slope to counter that. It was played one way, then the sides swapped. I defended first time, then attacked.

- If the attackers whimpered at the bottom of the hill, then those people who did attack got wiped out by careful fire - as happened in the first round.

- If the attackers pulled their finger out and everyone went for it, they could overwhelm the defenders gobsmackingly fast - as happened in the second round.

Basically, the result was determined by whether or not a majority of the attackers were prepared to get shot. (In fact, even if only about a quarter of the attackers had gone for it properly, then they could probably have pulled out a win.)



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Very interesting...mirrors water war interactions on hills almost exactly. Take your time working up a hill, people get hit, the defenders often keep possession. Use a proper Hill Blitz and the defense won't last a minute, quite literally.

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Hey, I'm kinda New to the forums and I know this is really the place to be posting this but i would like to say that I do know hamster in real life and i have been a part of these battles that have been mentioned above and its really great to have a large group of people having water wars :P insane at times lol.

If he doesnt manage to get the reports up for the battles i'd be more than happy to put some info up. THough i dont think there are any scheduled soon. Will have to check.

Thanks :P


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Welcome to the forums! I think Infernal also is part of your organization. ;)

I'd love to see some battle reports from you too. Face it, it's kinda hard for one person to recall everything that happened in a 400-man war. :D



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Infernal? Don't think so, not unless he's someone I know in real-life who hasn't told me, highly unlikely, but, there's always a tiny chance. :P

Having such large wars is hardly all that perfect, after all, the grass looks greener on the other side, both ways in this case too. Many problems with massive battles, as such my role is primarily administrative, and strategics are secondary by necessity. But, my cohort and I will be passing the mantle to the juniors soon, then I can take my priority off admin.

Hopefully more writers from here'll will find time to pen down stuff, that way we can produce more info/content.


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Wooh that 400 man war was insane in a way >.< Got hit in the face by water bombs twice, had 3 in my groin area and then i stopped after that. :S

Main problems with it really were the lack of proper organisation of the members of the different squads. Although the squads were meant to stick together and fight as a squaad it kinda degenerated into a mass conflictm Kinda like the actual war with rows of shields and people behind them lobbing bombs. (Kinda Cool this way though, great targets for our WBL :P)

Although i do have a gripe to make about the shields we had >.<... the card board kinda turned into mush after a while, not too much good for blocking water bombs after that.

I guess the main problem would be that fact that there wasnt a really clearly defined chain of command within a squad that the members were willing to follow, given that it was a mix of people who hadnt really engaed in water warfare together before.

Hopefully things will get better :P Maybe next year then, if we are having one hehe.


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Anyone got any pics of the 400+ person water war? I know I'd love to see massive groups of people enjoying a water fight, even if the organization were not as good as one may have desired.

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Yeah, sounds like fun. Too bad there are too many people to arm with soakers, at least for now.

iSoaker, weren't there some pictures or a video of that massive war on the beach in Australia? That was actually pretty funny - the people in the rear of each mob couldn't throw all the way into the other mob, so they hit their own people in the front.

Sorry, I guess Infernal said he was part of another team. Now that I think about it, it must have been forestfighter7's and urbanfighter7's team.


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Yes. Infernal is on my team. And by the way, urbanfighter7 isn't that closely affiliated with us anymore. He got really into airsoft, but he'll still come to the battles if he's not busy.

It sounds like you have great wars! I would love to participate in one, but I'm WAY too far away. I would love to see a vid of a huge war...Hint Hint...



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Were these wars local, or in a park or something? I'm just curious as to how one could refill something such as a water balloon from a toilet.

Videos of these huge fights would be awesome, but then you run the risk of getting your camera wet, and it shorting out.

Anyways, looks like you've had warm, sunny weather for a while, and had fun with it. Good Job!



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Finally! On second thought, I should have made a gallery, but oh well.

<a href="http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/888/07118nb9.jpg" target="_blank">http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/888/07118nb9.jpg</a>

<a href="http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/9865/07314ia8.jpg" target="_blank">http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/9865/07314ia8.jpg</a>

<a href="http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/6822/07348of6.jpg" target="_blank">http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/6822/07348of6.jpg</a>

<a href="http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/5161/07368du2.jpg" target="_blank">http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/5161/07368du2.jpg</a>

<a href="http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/1953/07412jc5.jpg" target="_blank">http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/1953/07412jc5.jpg</a>

<a href="http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/3513/07417dn4.jpg" target="_blank">http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/3513/07417dn4.jpg</a>

<a href="http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/3696/07457rc9.jpg" target="_blank">http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/3696/07457rc9.jpg</a>

<a href="http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/8781/07463hv7.jpg" target="_blank">http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/8781/07463hv7.jpg</a>

Perhaps the term "water balloon" would be misleading, "water bomb" is more accurate. They are basically small plastic bags filled with water, so its easy to fill from a restroom/toilet/cooler/water bottle/ almost anything. Looking through the pictures, there should be plenty of spent ammo on the ground. Water bombs are easier to spot and clear up too after a large battle, as compared to water balloons.

We didn't go serious for this battle, just went and fooled around with the WBL. Don't worry about the low angle, I have great faith in our aim, and good reason to.

Which guy is me or any member with an online presence is unimportant. :P


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